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2019.07.27 22:11 SuperduperFan92 Jak and Daxter Theory: Mar's Identity REVEALED!
This theory explores a possible answer that has NEVER previously been considered. Though this argument may sound absurd at first, it is indeed my preferred interpretation, since it provides a satisfying (though silly) solution that subverts expectations and provides deeper meaning to subtle connections.submitted by SuperduperFan92 to jakanddaxter [link] [comments]
However, please note that the confidence that I express throughout this post is purely rhetorical and performative. I know this theory is ridiculous and unlikely... but for the duration of this post, I shall pretend that this not the case. I implore readers to likewise suspend their disbelief until they get to the end. Then afterward you can tell me how dumb this idea is.
IntroductionThe Jak and Daxter series began with Jak accidentally knocking Daxter into a pool of Dark Eco, thus transforming his best friend into a creature known as an Ottsel. And as the duo set out on their quest to reverse this transformation, their journey not only turned them both into heroes but also exposed them to the hidden truths that have shaped their world and their destinies.
Since the very beginning, the Jak and Daxter series has derived much of its charm from the mysteries that linger throughout its vibrant universe. The largest of these revolved around the Precursors, an ancient yet advanced civilization that mysteriously disappeared. The later games explored the nature of these enigmatic beings and explained why they vanished long ago, thus providing a satisfying resolution for the players. As the series went on, many of its major questions all received clear answers. But, there is one mystery that went totally unsolved: Who is Mar?
The Mystery of Mar
Mar was the founder of Haven City, and his legendary feats protected the denizens from the monsters known as the Metal Heads. He was not only a great warrior but a brilliant visionary. He built the city, its power system, the shield walls, and basically 90% of its infrastructure. Though he is a critically important historical figure in the fictional universe, the player never really gets to see Mar (beyond a statue or two). He is left shrouded in mystery, and the character’s true identity remains very unclear.
It has been a decade since a new installment has come out, even longer if you’re one of those fans who insist that The Lost Frontier doesn’t exist. So generally, most people have given up hope for getting a definitive answer on this topic. However, it’s quite possible that, based off the current games alone, the truth regarding Mar can be determined by examining the clues sprinkled across all six entries in the series.
After analyzing every single game (yes, even The Lost Frontier), I believe I have uncovered the answer. And let me say upfront that it’s NOT who you think it is, so buckle up and let’s dive right in.
The Jak ConundrumFor years, fans have been debating and speculating about the true identity of Mar, with much of the discourse revolving around whether or not he could be Jak himself.
In the second game, the player discovers that Jak is actually a distant descendent of Mar who was born in Haven City but was then sent to the past so he could grow up in a safe time period before the city even existed. After becoming a teenager, he returned to the future so he could save Haven City from the Metal Heads and other evil forces. During one of the last cutscenes in Jak 3, though, it’s revealed that, before being sent to the past, young Jak originally went by the name MAR. And in a series with a ton of time travel, this detail spawned a lot of speculation. After all, both Jak and Mar were great heroes who could skillfully channel Eco, so there certainly are some curious similarities between the two.
The popular theory suggests that Jak would someday travel to the past so he could establish Haven City and fulfill his destiny. There are even a number of hints indicating that Mar is indeed time traveler, so these clues lend credibility to this speculation. In the Mega Scrapbook available through the Jak II bonus features, there is a page from an old script where a character specifically states that Mar arrived to their world in a ship called the Time Cutter.
Proof that Mar was a Time Traveler
Sig: That Ruby Key opened up some other strange stuff down here. If I know my bedtime stories right, I think this must be the control room for Mar’s old ship called the Time Cutter. I heard about this thing all my life. Stories say this old ship brought Mar to our world long ago… but from where. Nobody knows. They say Mar hid from the Metal Heads down here for years before building Haven City.
I mean, come on! The ship is literally called the Time Cutter. That sure as heck sounds like a name for a time machine to me. Though this detail was dropped from the final game, this cut line indicates what Naughty Dog had in mind when it came to developing Mar's backstory.
And then, when Jak and Daxter complete a bonus mission in Jak 3, they even hear this line from a wise Precursor Oracle:
Precursor Oracle: Once again you prove the stories were true; you were - we mean, you are - a great hero.
So, case closed, right? Jak is Mar. Or so it would appear. But some details just don’t neatly align.
First of all, it is my personal belief that the Statue of Mar looks nothing, and I mean NOTHING like Jak. And Jak is not a dumb guy or anything, but he doesn’t seem smart enough to build all the complicated technology that is attributed to Mar’s handiwork, like the Eco Grid powering the city or even Mar’s Gun, a massive laser cannon that can penetrate the strongest fortification.
Granted, these inconsistencies aren’t necessarily deal breakers, since there may in fact be a way around them. But these discordant details do provide some complications when it comes to logically reconciling aspects of the Jak/Mar theory.
But if Mar is not Jak, then who is? A lot of fans gravitate toward the Jak theory, not necessarily because he is the most likely candidate, but rather because he is widely believed to be the ONLY candidate.
If Mar isn’t Jak, then that would just make Mar a random stranger or some insignificant side character. Boring! Or maybe Mar is literally a nobody, a mere myth that never truly existed. But with so much mystery built around his identity, these options would be immensely unsatisfying. So who else could Mar possibly be, then?
The Shocking TruthThere is indeed an alternative candidate who has never been considered in the history of the Internet (trust me, I checked). This may sound like an absurd idea, but there is honestly a mountain of evidence backing this up. When one looks at all the different factors, the answer becomes clear: Mar is none other than... Daxter.
The Legendary Mar
Hold it! Don’t click off that page quite yet! Let me make my case.
In the second installment, Jak and Daxter obtain a powerful magical object called the Precursor Stone. By the end of the game, they learn that this stone is actually a Precursor Egg that contains an ethereal Precursor entity within. But according to the Metal Head Leader, it’s not just any egg but rather Mar’s last egg.
Metal Kor: Now that you’ve been altered with dark eco, the Stone will never open for you. Your younger self, however, still has the pure gift! He alone can awaken the Stone and the Precursor entity, which sleeps inside.
Mar's Last Egg
Granted, there has been some debate about whether the Precursor Stone is a legitimate Precursor Egg, but seeing as how this claim is coming directly from the Precursors' ancient foe, the words of the Metal Head Leader carry a lot credibility. If anyone would be able to correctly identify a Precursor Egg, it would be him. Plus, the entire story for Jak II would fall apart if it wasn't a real egg. For a more in-depth analysis of the Precursor Stone's authenticity, (Click Here).
So if Mar produced a Precursor Egg, then that would make him a Precursor (at least during some phase of his life). After all, Mar seemed to possess immense talents when it came to using Eco and building complex technology, which is appropriate given that these skills appear to be inherently imbued within the Precursors’ very code.
Why is this important? Well, in Jak 3 it was revealed that the all-powerful Precursors were actually Ottsels.
The Most Powerful Beings in the Universe
So wait, if Mar is a Precursor, and Precursors are Ottsels, then that would make Mar an Ottsel just like Daxter, right? Yeah yeah, I know Mar’s statue looks very humanoid, but the Precursors were shown to have the power to effortlessly transform other humanoid beings into Ottsels, so perhaps they could also do the reverse. Maybe they could even shapeshift themselves. Heck, even the Precursor entity that emerged from the egg adopted a human-shaped form, so it’s not entirely out of the question. And if select Metal Heads could adopt humanoid guises, then there is no reason why the Precursors can’t do the same.
Also, keep in mind that there are a number of lines indicating that Mar did indeed wield the power of the Precursors in order to accomplish his legendary feats, so this would make even more sense if Mar was indeed a Precursor himself.
Veger: The rail system leads deep into the planet where it's said the ancient ones wait to bestow unimaginable powers upon the worthy. I will save the world with that power, just as Mar did!
Then, toward the end of Jak 3, it’s revealed that in order to gain the power of the Precursors, one must first become a Precursor. So if Mar did gain that power, then he must be a Precursor. Or if nothing else, he must have the Precursors’ essence flowing through his veins.
Precursor Oracle: You have proven your worth, warrior. We grant you the gift of evolution; the honor of becoming one of us.
Jak missed out on his shot of becoming a full-blooded Precursor, but Daxter has been one the whole time. So if Mar is indeed a Precursor life form, then it does make more sense for Mar to be connected to Daxter rather than Jak.
The Strongest LinksUpon taking a closer look at this complex mystery, the connections between Mar and Daxter become quite apparent, and all the puzzle pieces seemingly fall into place.
If Mar produced the Precursor Egg, then he would need to have a female Precursor in the equation. Well, at the end of Jak 3, the Precursors actually transform Tess, Daxter’s love interest, into a Precursor. In fact, Daxter and Tess constitute as the only Precursor romantic pairing in the whole series, so they pretty much have to be the source of the Precursor Egg.
The Future King and Queen of Haven City
Precursors also seem to possess an innate proficiency when it comes to technological expertise, so perhaps Daxter and Tess were able to build Haven City together by unleashing their hidden cognitive potential. After all, Daxter appeared to unconsciously tap into these latent technical talents when he somehow disarmed the Piercer Bomb and stopped it from blowing up the whole universe. And it’s possible that he again summoned his mechanical aptitudes when facing against the Sky Pirates and dismantling their aircraft systems.
Daxter putting his technological talents to good use
Tess would then be the likely architect behind Mar’s Gun since she was established as a weapons expert in Jak 3. Perhaps Tess helped Daxter construct the superweapon by applying her specialized knowledge of weaponry.
Tess: I'm designing new guns to help out the war effort.
Mar's Gun (Tess Obviously Helped)
As for the Eco Grid that powers Haven City, there was actually a mission in Jak 3 where Daxter was downloaded directly into its ancient circuits in a Tron-like fashion for a game of classic Pac-man. So, maybe he was able to build the power grid because he had already seen its inner-workings in the future. The same thing could apply to all the other stuff designed by Mar, including the city’s layout, the Light Tower, and even Mar’s Tomb.
Daxter exploring the Eco Grid
Speaking about that tomb, it’s interesting that it is filled with insects and arachnids, especially since Daxter has a long history with these creatures. In his spinoff game, he was a bug exterminator that often went head-to-head with creepy-crawlies. Even dating back to the first game, Daxter was shown to possess a strong fear of spiders.
Daxter: Great. Sounds like a real cheery place. Let me guess… there are spiders in the Spider Caves, right?!
The tomb was designed by Mar to keep out trespassers, so maybe Daxter filled it with threats that he personally dreaded in order to scare people away. He put his bug exterminator skills to good use and wrangled up insects and arachnids to test his bloodline, since the only people worthy of Mar’s legacy would be those that triumphed over the same type of foes that Mar himself faced in life.
The Trials of Manhood (Featuring Mar's Collection of Bugs and Spiders)
One might argue that Daxter’s previous aversion to arachnids and bugs would make him less likely to incorporate them into the site of his symbolic resting place. However, in Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, Daxter is shown overcoming his fear of spiders while in his Dark Daxter form.
Dark Daxter: Sticky webbing… Is this a joke little spider? Come closer, we’ll see who’s laughing.
Dark Daxter: Who knew spiders could be this much fun?
Dark Daxter: Come here spider… I have some plans for you.
In this installment, Daxter even learns how to use the spiders to serve his purposes and help him advance through the sewers. As Mar, it’s possible that Daxter could apply this same lesson by utilizing spiders in the tomb’s design. After all, Daxter did indeed discover that, under the right circumstances, something as dangerous as a spider could provide some usefulness. Therefore, it’s not too farfetched to suggest that Daxter could have incorporated spiders and insects into the Trials of Manhood.
Also, only those who hail from the House of Mar are supposed to be able to pass the trials of the tomb. But not only does Daxter survive the deadly tests, but he even beats Jak to the central chamber when the two get separated. And he does this by facing off with a giant spider, a trial that Jak himself totally skipped. So if only Mar’s bloodline is fit to conquer those tests, then that means Daxter must be related to Mar as well, perhaps because he is Mar.
It should also be noted that upon discovering the tomb, the Precursor Oracle seemingly rejected older Jak when he stepped forward, claiming that the child was not old enough to face the tests. Many fans assume that the Precursor Oracle was referring to young Jak, but if you watch that cutscene again, the Precursor Oracle appears to be reacting to older Jak approaching the door, not his younger self.
Precursor Oracle: Finally, the Chosen One stands before me. Enter and prove yourself worthy to claim the ancient birthright.
Jak steps forward and gets rejected
So if Jak wasn’t old enough to face the test, then maybe Daxter was the one who was old enough to attain the stone (by being a few months older, but that still might count).
Precursor Oracle: Welcome, young warrior. Many eons have passed since our hope burned so brightly. Today you have proven yourself worthy to receive Mar's legacy.
Notice how the Precursor Oracle doesn't correct Daxter's claim in this instance. In the next game, however, the Precursors demonstrated their willingness to speak up when Daxter incorrectly assumed that he was the one being addressed.
Precursor Oracle: You will need all the power you can muster to survive this terrible test, great one.
With this mind, perhaps the Precursors didn't correct Daxter in Mar's Tomb because they were indeed addressing him at that moment. It was Daxter who was worthy to receive Mar's legacy, perhaps because he is literally Mar.
The Precursors have this pesky habit of addressing both Jak and Daxter without specifying who their comments are primarily directed toward. This even dates back to the very first game.
Precursor Oracle: Who awakens the Oracle? Wait, one of you has the light within. From before time, I have watched and waited for the true hero to return.
In this case, one might assume that the Precursor Oracle is addressing Jak when it says "one of you" since the young hero possesses the "pure gift" within. But it's also possible that the Precursor Oracle could be referring to Daxter and his exposure to Dark Eco, since that dark ooze is similarly described as a "light" later in the same game.
Precursor Oracle: Beware of the dark light, for it has twisted the fate of one of you.
Note again how the Precursor Oracle uses the term "one of you" when addressing the duo. So if this comment is indeed directed at Daxter's exposure to Dark Eco, then it's possible that the previous interaction could have been directed at him as well (with the "light within" actually being the "dark light" referenced here). This would mean that Daxter is the "true hero" whose return the Precursors had been awaiting.
Keep in mind that there have been multiple instances throughout the series where characters have been vague about whether they are referring to Jak or Daxter, so this seems to be a reoccurring component of the writing that exists on purpose.
Samos the Sage: Every bone in my body tells me that the answers rest on the shoulders of a young boy. Oblivious to his destiny, uninterested in the search for truth, and rejecting of my guidance! And why would he want to listen to old Samos the Sage, anyway? I'm only the master of green eco, one of the wisest men on the planet!
In the first cutscene of the series, was Samos referring to Jak or Daxter? Which of them was the young boy? Maybe the ambiguity of this line was intentional in order to downplay the significance of Daxter's destiny.
Surprising SimilaritiesWhen one takes a step back, a number of subtle similarities between Mar and Daxter can be identified.
In Jak 3, there are multiple bonus missions where the Precursor Oracles instruct Jak and Daxter to find Precursor Orbs at spots that Mar used for reflection.
Precursor Oracle: This spot was a place of reflection by the great warrior Mar; reach it in time and the prize is yours.
It turns out that almost all these spots have the same thing in common: They’re near shaded areas and are in view of a sandy beach and a body of water. In this same game, though, Daxter mentions how calming it is to sit in the shade and watch women walk by in their bikinis.
Daxter: Isn’t it kinda nice to just curl up in the shade sometimes? Just chillin’ it; watching the hot babes prancing around in their skimpy little bikinis, you know, just how they jiggle. I get that special tingling feeling in my… tail.
Daxter just so happens to be describing a beach-like setting that closely matches up with Mar’s chosen places of reflection. So, if Mar is indeed Daxter, then it would make sense for his spots of reflection to be by beaches and near the shade, since that aligns with Daxter’s preferences as well.
Mar’s Place of Reflection
Another link between Mar and Daxter comes from their shared connection to the color red. Anything remotely associated with Mar just so happens to be red, including the Heart of Mar gem, Mar’s Ruby Key, Mar’s Gun, and even the Krimzon Guard, a law enforcement entity presumably founded by Mar to protect the city. And though Daxter primarily sports orange in his Ottsel form, his humanoid form was a kid with a red tunic, red eyebrows, and red-tipped hair. If Daxter was to return to his original form, he might also return to red as his primary color.
Mar's Association with Red
It should also be noted that Mar’s Statue depicts the great hero with a sword. Jak, despite his wide arsenal of guns, Eco, vehicles, and mech suits, never once used a sword-like melee weapon. Daxter, on the other hand, gained experience in melee weapon combat when he used the electric flyswatter in his spinoff game. Daxter was fairly skilled with that kind of weaponry, and it could be argued that his experience with the flyswatter allowed him to develop transferrable skills that could be applied to swinging around a sword.
Osmo: In my day, we hunted bugs with style and class. A more elegant weapon, for a more civilized time.
When Osmo gives the flyswatter to Daxter, this line’s allusion to Star Wars even implicitly compares the weapon to a laser sword. Therefore, the connection between the flyswatter and sword combat is supported by both the gameplay mechanics and the narrative’s text.
Daxter wielding a melee weapon
Then there are Daxter’s Eco-channeling abilities, which might be extremely powerful compared to most characters. If Mar is a Precursor, it makes sense for his Eco-channeling abilities to be considerably high as well. It’s true that Daxter never got many opportunities to demonstrate his Eco powers in the main titles, but as a Precursor, he should possess plenty of untapped potential.
There is however one game that gives the players a glimpse of what Daxter is capable of accomplishing with aid of Eco, and that installment is the much maligned Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier. In that game, Daxter comes into contact with a large amount of Dark Eco and instantly gains the form of Dark Daxter.
Dark Daxter (which is technically canon)
Even Jak, who possesses an innate talent for Eco-channeling partly due to his lineage from Mar, only acquired his Dark Jak form after two years of painful experimentation. But Daxter, on the other hand, could immediately channel vast quantities of Dark Eco and effortlessly transform into his dark form following his initial exposure, so that may mean he is even more skilled than Jak when it comes to using Eco.
It should also be noted that while channeling Eco, Daxter appears to gain incredible upper-body strength that brings him closer to muscularly matching Mar's buff physique. Even when Jak is at his strongest during his eco forms, his boost in strength doesn't change his muscular build all that much, or at least not enough to resemble Mar's body type. But Daxter does indeed gain a massive boost that makes him taller and buffer, so just imagine how exposure to Eco could impact his humanoid form.
The Traces of Mar’s LegacyThe evidence for this theory could further be found in the remnants of Mar's reign, ranging from his relics to even his documented heroics.
Some fans may find it difficult to envision the clumsy humanoid Daxter as the mighty Mar, but keep in mind that Mar’s abilities as a warrior might have been somewhat overstated. Throughout various games like Daxter, Jak II, Jak 3, and Jak X: Combat Racing, the orange furball has been shown telling exaggerated tales, often to people at bars. I ask you this: Where did all these legends about Mar come from? Someone must have told the thrilling stories of Mar’s heroic feats. If Daxter was Mar, it would be quite amusing if he was the one who hyped up Mar’s image through his inflated ego-stroking storytelling abilities.
Daxter: And there I was, toe to toe with five, uh, fifty-five of the nastiest lurkers you ever saw. Suddenly, they came at me from the left, so I moved to the right, with a chop, and a kick, and a- (yells)
Daxter: So there I was, toe-to-toe with five of the nastiest metal heads you ever saw! Slime oozing from monstrous jaws! Teeth sharper than daggers! Slowly, all ten of them surround me. But do I surrender? No! I summon my highly trained killer instincts, and pounce! Hiya! Hiya! Wha! Hah! And when the dust cleared, there were twenty less metal heads in the world!
Daxter: Ooh, ooh! Wait until you hear about my adventures in the wasteland. So there I was, facing a whole brood of slobbering metal heads, when all of a sudden-
Daxter: So there we were, wheel to wheel with the nastiest racing cars I’ve ever seen. Razor-sharp chrome gleaming in the dark, weapons bristling under rumbling hoods!
Perhaps Mar isn’t the god-like figure that the legends made him out to be, but instead he is merely a product of Daxter’s embellishments about his own exploits. And since Daxter tends to tell his extravagant tales to people in bars, it’s possible that the impaired states of his audience made them gullible enough to unquestionably accept the heroic accounts and retell them to friends and family until eventually these fables became reinforced as bedtime stories across generations. These mythic tales would even find their way into history books, perhaps with no one remembering where they originated from in the first place.
It's also suggested that Mar documented some of his adventures and research throughout his own writings.
Samos the Sage: Those Precursor pillars are some of the oldest artifacts we've ever found. Mar wrote that there was some ancient ruins to the west that were activated by five special artifacts and revealed wondrous truths.
Mar’s writings apparently stated that the Astro-viewer can reveal “wondrous” truths. However, when Jak uses it, he learns about the Dark Makers and he supposedly gets a glimpse of the Precursors’ true forms, neither of which he would describe was wondrous revelations. In fact, Jak looked quite stunned and shaken when the truth of the Precursors was revealed to him. However, when Daxter discovered the true forms of the Precursors, he considered that news to be wondrous and even performed a dance of joy. So it makes sense for Mar’s writings to be coming from Daxter’s perspective, since he would designate the truth about the Precursors to be quite wondrous.
Also, it should be pointed out that two of the three pieces to the Seal of Mar were in the possession of Lurkers. This is important because Brutter seemed especially fond of Daxter due to his Ottsel attributes, and it’s possible that this affinity could be echoed by other Lurkers as well. Brutter even recognized Jak and Daxter as honorary members of the Lurker tribe. Perhaps Daxter, as Mar, was uniquely positioned to develop a healthy dynamic with the Lurker clans when he returned to the past, so he entrusted them to safeguard the pieces to the Seal of Mar.
Let's return to the Time Cutter, since that scene has some fascinating content that was omitted from the final game. In a cut line, Sig states that Mar hid in the ship for years before building Haven City.
Sig: Stories say this old ship brought Mar to our world long ago… but from where. Nobody knows. They say Mar hid from the Metal Heads down here for years before building Haven City.
This type of behavior doesn’t seem very consistent with Jak’s proactive mindset, but Daxter on the other hand is exactly the type of person that would lay low and wait around for years before setting off to do something important. Keep in mind, it took him literally years to muster the mettle required to rescue Jak from prison, so it's not difficult to envision him killing time in the Time Cutter's control room.
When Daxter climbed on the statue of Mar, he has a fascinating line where he mentions that if Jak wasn’t in his life, he’d probably still have his humanoid form and wouldn’t be in the sewers without a pair of pants.
Jak: Where would you be without me, eh Dax?
Interestingly, as he utters this dialogue, the image of Mar is within the frame. The statue is of a humanoid Precursor that happens to be in the sewers WITH a pair of pants. Perhaps the staging of this scene is meant to ironically hint at the idea of Daxter being Mar.
This theory might even add a layer of meaning to Daxter pulling out Mar’s Ruby Key as if it was the sword in the stone, something that could only be done by a destined ruler. After all, he pulls the Ruby Key out of the statue’s sword that is itself pierced into a stone (as depicted by the statue), thus creating an appropriately mirrored scenario between both Mar and Daxter in that exact moment. So as Mar is pulling a sword from a stone, Daxter is likewise pulling a key out of a stone statue.
Analogous to Pulling the Sword from the Stone
Ultimately, when one looks at Mar’s legends, writings, relics, alliances, conduct, and statues, it seems all the traces of his reign point in one direction: Daxter.
Small Stuff That Lines UpHonestly, the evidence goes far beyond the examples already discussed. There are so many small details that just fit with this theory as well.
Daxter being Mar would explain why an image of Daxter is in the ancient carvings of the Lurker Totem that just so happens to contain a Mar relic embedded into it. If the carvings of the totem are indeed ancient, then in order for its design to feature someone like Daxter, it would need to be inspired by someone with knowledge of the future that regarded Daxter as a significant enough figure to merit inclusion.
The Shadow: Onin and I have learned that a piece to the Seal of Mar is contained within its ancient carvings.
Daxter's Likeness in the Ancient Lurker Totem
Daxter being Mar would explain why the Mar Memorial Racing Stadium has an orange roof, since it would be a reference to Daxter’s racing nickname Orange Lightning from Jak II, Jak 3, and Jak X: Combat Racing. Daxter did manage to win first place in the Class 2 Race, so he is indeed a skilled racer too. Therefore, if the stadium was named after Mar due to him founding the racing sport, then it make sense for the stadium's design to evoke Daxter's racing title: Orange Lightning.
Daxter: You can call me, Orange Lightning—zazazing!
Daxter: Orange Lightning is ready to race!
The Mar Memorial Stadium
Daxter being Mar would explain why Mar’s statue is described as ugly, since the series repeatedly pokes fun at Daxter’s humanoid form and Ottsel form being ugly.
Jak’s Uncle: I would've pledged my word that I had ninety of them. But I gather that your young friend, you know, the little annoying miserably ugly one, might have just pilfered them as a sort of a spot of fun.
The Shadow: Sorry kid, never seen you before, and I never forget a face. Especially one that ugly.
Krew: Ah, the bedtime stories were true. The fabled Heart of Mar was hidden inside that ugly statue of the old boy.
And the list of connections goes on and on.
In fact, here are a few lines below that may possess small nods to the similarities between Daxter and Mar.
Daxter: Well, if I had the Precursor Stone, with all that power, I’d use it to build a giant palace.
Daxter: Then it’d just be you and me baby - starting civilization all over again.
Daxter: Sheesh. That Mar guy must’ve never slept much!
But perhaps the most interesting evidence comes at the end of Jak II. Samos the Sage, the wisest character in the whole series (who seems to know more than he lets on), tells Jak that perhaps he’ll meet Mar in a future adventure. This is weird thing to suggest, given that Mar has supposedly been dead for hundreds of years.
Samos the Sage: I’ve got a feeling we’ll meet Mar someday. He may be closer than you think.
As Samos speaks that line, the scene cuts to a shot angled from behind the sign of the Naughty Ottsel. When I first saw that scene, I thought the deliberately odd framing was meant to imply that Mar was somehow watching the characters from a safe distance. Basically, it seemed like a possible POV shot of an unknown observer.
Closer Than You Think
Now, however, I think the significance behind the curious shot-choice has more to do with the Naughty Ottsel being caught in the frame. When Samos utters the line, perhaps cutting to the Naughty Ottsel sign is meant to hint at Mar’s identity. The massive truth is literally looming over the characters in the form of the brightly lit mascot.
This could be hinting at Mar being an Ottsel/Precursor. Besides, as already discussed, Mar is indeed a Precursor, and Precursors were revealed to be Ottsels, so this conjecture might not be so farfetched. And seeing as how the Naughty Ottsel sign was specifically modeled on Daxter’s likeness, this could serve as an even more direct clue for Mar’s identity.
Furthermore, Samos said that Mar may be closer than Jak thinks, so it would be interesting if that line was alluding to the idea of Daxter being Mar. How ironic would it be if the legendary Mar-to-be was riding on Jak’s bony shoulder this whole time? If this were true, then Mar truly would be closer to Jak than he thinks. In fact, Daxter is as close to Jak as one can get.
There is one line spoken by a Precursor Oracle that is worth revisiting, as this theory helps to provide an entirely new context for interpreting it:
Precursor Oracle: Once again you prove the stories were true; you were - we mean, you are - a great hero.
When the Precursor Oracle refers to the “great hero” from the old stories, this possible allusion to the legends of Mar might be directed at the unlikely member of the heroic duo. Heck, maybe every Mar-related line ambiguously spoken to Jak and Daxter had less to do with Jak and more to do with Daxter. Besides, Jak might be “the greatest of heroes,” but he isn’t the only one to receive the distinction of “great hero” in these games. In fact, during the very final scene of the core trilogy, a character states this:
Seem: You are a great hero, Daxter.
Maybe, just maybe, Daxter is a greater hero than we think. Perhaps he is indeed the legendary Mar, the answer to the great mystery.
ConclusionThe idea of Daxter being Mar might sound silly at first, but this is the same series that subverted expectations by making the mysterious and powerful Precursor race comprised of furry rodents. So this type of twist would seem entirely consistent with Naughty Dog’s storytelling philosophy for this series, in which the truth is so preposterous that no one would dare suspect it.
And don’t forget that this entire series began with a single mission: To return Daxter back to his humanoid self. And though Daxter seemed to accept his Precursor status at the end of Jak 3, it would almost be fitting for him to someday reclaim his old form. This might even bring the narrative full circle, since the series began with Daxter being transformed.
What would a humanoid Daxter even look like after all these years? Perhaps the reason that Mar doesn’t resemble any known character is because the person that becomes Mar presently occupies a different form. And Daxter's face for his Ottsel form did undergo a massive redesign between the first two games, so maybe the same shift in facial structure could apply to his humanoid appearance. Or maybe Daxter could select a humanoid form of his own choosing, thus modeling himself on Mar’s likeness. After all, even when Daxter was in his humanoid form, he was described as unattractive, so it seems likely that he would ditch his scrawny bucktooth appearance in favor of a more chiseled physique with a strong jawline. And with the power of the Precursors at his disposal, perhaps Daxter could indeed adopt this stunningly handsome form.
Daxter and Tess might have gone back in time so that they could construct Haven City, reclaim their humanoid forms, and produce an entire lineage of humanoid-Precursor hybrids capable of skillfully channeling Eco just like the gods that created the universe. This would mean that Jak's innate eco skills are due to him being the descendent of a Precursor (which actually makes a lot of sense). And yes, this would establish Daxter as Jak's ancestor. Both have blue eyes, multi-colored hair, and perhaps Tess introduced the prominent blondish hair into the genetic line. So maybe Jak and Daxter don't just share a brotherly bond but also a blood connection.
Ultimately, even though Daxter’s name was dropped from the titles of multiple installments, it’s quite possible that he is the series’ most important heroic figure whose destiny even eclipses the one belonging to Jak. Without a Jak Four, maybe we’ll never get a definitive answer, but based on the clues, this may have been the direction that the series was heading in.
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2019.05.18 23:30 ImmortalThunderGod79 Historical Evaluation on the Shinobi in Sekiro
“One fundamental mistake most people make when reading shinobi texts is that they class the translations as a full curriculum, a complete set of skills. In one respect this is true, that is the translations are full shinobi skill sets, but those writing these manuals and carrying out these tasks had other set of skills as well. These shinobi were a part of a warrior culture and you should understand that the skills of a ninja is an add on, used to enhance a warrior’s already formidable skill-set. In the Sengoku Period - the time where these arts were perfected - a samurai would be a proficient fighter, horseman and sometimes a war master, but more than all these things such as swordsmanship, archery, swimming, sea warfare, survival techniques, they had shinobi no jutsu for these special needs - making them warriors with that little extra, exceptional advantage, an advantage that could almost guarantee employment and was kept close and secret.”If there is anything to take away from this quote it is that Ninjutsu is a supplementary set of skills of survival and espionage meant to compliment with your own already extraordinary talents as the focus of Shinobi No Jutsu was mainly used for spying and intelligence-gathering rather then combat. So meaning if a farmer, merchant, artisan and commoner were to try and practice Ninjutsu on its own without any martial arts training, they will be a very good spy who can gather information on the enemy for the daimyo they are loyal to without getting caught, but they will NOT be a trained warrior. However if a Samurai or Ashigaru who are already skilled at martial arts at like say their own style of Jujutsu, Kenjutsu and Sojutsu (the way of the spear), but practiced Ninjutsu then they will not only be an excellent spy-- But also a formidable fighter. This is how it works.
Source: Iga and Koka Ninja Skills: The Secret Shinobi Scrolls of Chikamatsu Shigenori
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